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06:55:01Denis SavenkoFamiliar people... from Twitter)
06:55:16* Joel KallmanIt's one big happy enthusiastic global community.
06:55:19* Joel KallmanOh....and cool!
06:55:27Jayson Hanes=)
06:55:41Denis Savenko48 people! That's the record!
06:55:51Denis SavenkoFrom my memory on Office Hours)
06:55:51monikHere we are!
06:55:52AE LeedsHello Everyone from Leeds UK.
06:56:13Holgerthere will be more :-)
06:56:14* Joel KallmanHello Leeds - we're glad you could make it.
06:56:46skouakouhello
06:56:53* Joel KallmanDenis - believe it or not, that's not true.
06:56:59* Joel KallmanThe .NET Office Hours had more than 100.
06:57:03* Joel KallmanThe first one.
06:57:09Jayson Hanesthanks David!
06:57:11Hany GharebHello APEX Expert team, i am very happy to join this session
06:57:19Sohail NawazThanks David
06:57:52Sohail NawazGood to see all APEX Team
06:57:57andrdobrHello Team :) glad to be here
06:59:03* David PeakePlease keep your videos turned off, so you can see the APEX Team
07:00:09Michael HichwaWe can hear you joel
07:00:39Hany Gharebvoice not clear
07:00:58icodealotSounds OK on my end.
07:01:14Andre de SouzaThis Apex Office Hours is the best thing Oracle came up with since apex 5 =)
07:01:41adediuyes, I have a questions regarding interactiv grid
07:01:46Prashanth RajuGood to see APEX Advancing...
07:01:47adediu*question
07:03:11Denis SavenkoJust 4 more and we beat 100!
07:03:20Denis Savenko2!
07:09:52lskalaishello
07:09:59Michael Hichwayes
07:10:00icodealotyeo
07:10:01Prashanth RajuYes
07:10:04Dumitru PuscasuНУЫ
07:10:07Muhanna Ghalebhello
07:10:09QCOM-BTDhi
07:10:09Dumitru Puscasuyes
07:10:37Muhanna GhalebI am Muhanna from Yemen
07:12:08Prashanth RajuWow..
07:12:12Steven FeuersteinGreat view, but where’s the apex sticker on the hill?
07:12:27Vinicius Damarqueshaha
07:12:40Prashanth Rajuha ha . Apex everywhere
07:14:34Richie V#darkmode
07:14:54Connor McDonaldBob does all the elegant tasteful design you see on Oracle sites. Of course, if you need any *inelegant distasteful* design, then I'm probably your guy :-)
07:15:40Cathy's iPhonehi, This is Cathy from China. APEX is a great tool, should promote more to Chinese developers
07:16:04cloudtwitterHi
07:16:26Connor McDonaldCatch Chaitanya on the ODevYathra tour in July! http://odevcyatra.in
07:16:28Juergen Schuster@Cathy: Create a Meetup and register it on apex.world and let us know what help you need?
07:16:47Denis SavenkoDevOps automation... Wow! Have many question on it)
07:17:08* Chaitanya Koratamaddithanks Connor! Yep, touring in different cities across India speaking on 18.1
07:17:12Muhanna GhalebMy name is Muhanna Ghaleb
07:17:17Muhanna GhalebI am from Yemen
07:17:17Steven FeuersteinMad scientist doctor with that hair!
07:17:20Muhanna GhalebActually we build ERP System using Apex 5.1
07:17:27Steven FeuersteinIs David unmuted? :-)
07:18:35Sheetal KulkarniPlease elaborate on DevOps Automation for Apex. Any examples, use cases for same is documented?
07:19:03Juergen Schuster@Steven: No he got a military hair cut now :-)
07:19:41Jason StraubWas that HAL?
07:19:47Denis SavenkoMr. Robot)
07:20:02Juergen SchusterHe is from a different planet anyway :-D
07:20:02Rich SouleBorg?
07:20:17laoliveirahahaha
07:20:18Allan SittersonIntergalactic Planetary, Planetary Intergalactic
07:20:25Connor McDonaldApex will assimilate you
07:21:31ForestHi :)
07:21:47Olivia Dinghahaha
07:21:48Cathy's iPhoneHi Kyle
07:21:56Juergen SchusterThe serious guy :-D
07:22:48Kyle HuI am?
07:23:04Juergen SchusterNo Marc :-)
07:23:16Steven FeuersteinAnd Mike is Joel’s boss. :-)
07:23:22Kyle HuGood to know!
07:23:23Muhanna Ghaleb-ORDS; Universal Theme; reporting (interactive report-classic report); printing using(layouts)
07:23:26* Shakeeb RahmanMike's 30 years at Oracle was yesterday!
07:23:38Denis SavenkoLooks like he's in charge of everything in Oracle)
07:23:50Steven FeuersteinMike is the developer tools guy
07:24:06Steven FeuersteinTHIRTY YEARS!
07:25:10Juergen SchusterMike is Merlin who forged APEX :-)
07:25:11Olivia DingPatrick help to answer so many questions of mine. Thanks
07:25:36Prashanth RajuSame here. A big thanks to Patrick and John
07:26:02Patrick WolfYou are welcome
07:26:53Kenny Wangglad to see so many live faces on twitter.
07:27:18Steven FeuersteinIf you are watching this session as part of a group please tell us how many of you are present physically (but only counted as “1”) in Zoom!
07:27:44Holger134 people in here ? wow
07:28:00Peter NoskoHello Steven. We are 4, waiting on a 5th.
07:28:46wydot5 of us
07:29:13Steven FeuersteinFirst time “your zipper” has been mentioned on an AskTOM Office Hours session
07:29:52Juergen SchusterHow many presidents came from Ohio? ;-)
07:30:24Gregthanks for introducting everyone!
07:31:43Earlheard a rumor that you won’t be supporting use of Glassfish for the app server in the future. true?
07:31:50Greghow does it compare/contrast with authorization scemes?
07:32:22ForestMy apex5.04 can work with tomcat 7.057. My ords version is 3.011. It can work with glassfish. Who can tell me how to solve the issue?
07:32:39Gregthanks
07:33:05ForestMy apex5.04 can't work with tomcat 7.057. My ords version is 3.011. It can work with glassfish. Who can tell me how to solve the issue?
07:33:14MaheshI would like to know, possibility of workflow in Apex. At least ready integration with any existing tool like Camunda, etc. possible ?
07:33:16Muhanna Ghalebwe use apex5.04 with tomcat 7 and ords 2 it works fine
07:34:17Juergen Schuster@Maresh: http://douggault.com/2018/06/20/reading-and-rabbit-holes-the-workflow-project-gone-astray/
07:34:52* Doug Gault@mahesh - Niels de Bruijn did a Presentation about Integrating Camunda with APEX. https://www.slideshare.net/nielsdb/affordable-workflow-options-for-apex
07:35:09Adedeji Adeeko a00298139Hi Chaitanya, I make use of the email approach but my concern is I have to divide the approval type to different regions
07:36:30* David PeakePlease ask questions publicly please, not privately to me so everyone can see the question
07:36:42SENTHILhow does APEX compare to other low code platforms like OutSystems?
07:36:43Juergen Schuster@Adedeji: It’s a DB task problem, actually not much to do with APEX. You should be able to solve that business logic in PL/SQL
07:37:27MaheshThanks @Juergen Schuster and @Doug Gault
07:37:30Geert De PaepI have never understood how item values are populated. More specifically when you go to a page on which you have an item: you can specify a default value, you can set source to static value or do nothing. You can call the page without any items or call it saying ..:::ITEMX:ValueX. Then when you have a query on the page using this item, in what cases does it use the default or any other value when calling this page? Usually I do a computation on page load to populate the item, to be sure the default value is there, but probably that is not the best option. Or I write in my query "where column = nvl(:MY_ITEM,'<my_default>')" just to be sure I have the default when the item is still empty. Probably related to this, is there an explanation of the column 'Status' of an item when you click on 'session state'? Is there good documentation about the logic of all this, or can it be provided?
07:38:13Juergen Schuster@Geert: https://www.talkapex.com/2018/04/apex-page-item-source-vs-default/
07:38:37Steven FeuersteinTo those asking new questions that may not get answered today: we will go through the chat log so we can follow up in future sessions.
07:38:43Geert De PaepThanks, I'll have a look at this
07:39:10Richard Dalvispeaker's voice is breaking. anybody else experience this? or only me...
07:39:19* Marc SewtzAPEX white papers: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/apex/learnmore/apex-white-papers-1866964.html
07:39:22icodealotSound is OK here.
07:39:54* Chaitanya Koratamaddi@Richard Dalvi there is no issue with sound
07:40:02Denis SavenkoYou're flattering me)
07:40:16Richard Dalviokay, thanks Chaitanya
07:40:17Steven FeuersteinPlus at least 60 people more watching physically via 4 zoom sessions.
07:40:22wydotcan we export theme roller changes from one workspace to another
07:40:45* Chaitanya KoratamaddiFor the question on low code, see https://apex.oracle.com/en/platform/low-code/
07:41:11Adrian PThere is an implementation of TOTP in OOS Utils (https://github.com/OraOpenSource/oos-utils).
07:41:34Eric OlsonAre there any plans to include any sort of Windows integrated authentication/single sign on as an authentication method in Apex?
07:42:01* Shakeeb Rahman@wydot: You can copy Theme Roller changes using your the JS Console. Please see the guide on http://apex-theme-styles.com/
07:42:20Kenny WangQuestion: Is there any plan for apex team to handle MySQL database as same as Oracle database within apex? Not only through REST, but also support MySQL for all apex components?
07:42:22Richard Dalvihow about O365 integration for authentication?
07:42:32Juergen Schuster@wydot: http://max-tremblay.blogspot.com/2016/04/copy-theme-roller-theme-from-one.html
07:43:21* David Peake@Kenny Wang - No plans to work with MySQL directly
07:43:46GregAny chance someone could speak about how to use the JS API for apex.model namespace? If I call the save method what do I do on the server side to handle?
07:44:13Sohail NawazCan we use APEX with non-oracle databses like (MS SQL Server and MySQL) ?
07:44:30Juergen SchusterFor Themes look at: https://apex-theme-styles.com/ords/f?p=800:1::::::
07:44:41hvarmanvideo on debugging would be helpful
07:44:43Denis Savenko@Sohail: Through REST API
07:44:53Adrian P@Richard Dalvi: In 18.1, use Social Sign In authentication scheme. Prior to that, you can use a module for Apache HTTPD and SAML2.
07:45:05Brenda.Todd@David - VIDEO - Colour (Universal theme)
07:45:43Carsten CzarskiI can't
07:45:59Richard DalviThanks @Adrian any document or link to implement in Apache HTTPD. could you please share
07:46:05* John Snydersapex.model currently can only be saved to a IG on the server side. Good question to ask for follow up on OTN forums
07:46:11John Dentvideo - Hi @David, customizing tree widget initialization for drag/drop etc would be great!
07:46:19Kenny Wangquestion 2: is there any plan of apex team to support wechat integration in apex?
07:46:25HEIFIvideo -offline capabilites
07:46:27Carsten Czarskihttps://www.thatjeffsmith.com/archive/2017/09/post-up-a-blob-to-an-oracle-table-via-rest/
07:46:32* Shakeeb Rahman@Brenda.Todd: I encourage you to watch this video on Theme Roller + UT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGtJCayvHaI
07:46:36christian.neumueller@oracle.comRe Windows Authentication, that's better done at the web server. We do not have the necessary APIs in PL/SQL. There is an Apache module that you can use and you can set that up in ORDS, too.
07:47:06IzzyHi, are there any future plans to improve the integration between Apex and eBusiness Suite ?
07:47:10Adrian P@Richard https://insum.ca/saml2-single-sign-on-with-oracle-application-express/
07:47:41Richard Dalvi@Adrian thanks a lot
07:48:08Adrian P@Richard my pleasure
07:48:40Kenny Wang@David Peake thanks.
07:48:41* Chaitanya Koratamaddi@Izzy yes, tweeted today https://twitter.com/joelkallman/status/1012113148931764224
07:48:57Richard DalviFILE ATTACH: storing the files as BLOB inside DB or in the File System, which is the best method?
07:49:03Vinicius Damarquesis there any trick to work with ORDS in weblogic ? It keeps throwing 401 error when I try to get the token credentials on /oauth/token
07:49:28Juergen Schuster@Izzy: https://twitter.com/joelkallman/status/1012113148931764224
07:49:58Kyle HuTo Kenny Wang: we will look into the WeChat integration
07:50:01Patrick Wolf@wydot unfortunately not, but you can grab the JSON stored for the theme style (Shared components -> Themes -> Theme Styles -> Theme Roller JSON Configuration), copy it over into your other workspace and then run the app and open up Theme Roller to regenerate the CSS
07:50:09Andre de SouzaQuestion: Is there any plans to absorve plugins and/or custom packages that the community is creating ? Because for most of big companies with a lot of concerns about security would not let me use anything that is not “oracle certified” meaning if it is not within apex you cannot install it/use it.
07:50:51Kenny Wang@Kyle Hu thanks buddy.
07:50:56GregThanks Oracle/Apex for doing this!
07:51:09wydotthanks patrick
07:51:44Juergen Schuster@Andre: From my point of view that will never happen, Oracle will never take responsibility for foreign code. Thats your decision to use it and you can check it by yourself. But I agree with the thinking that you are dependable on one guy using his Plug-in
07:52:43Greg@Andre and @Juergen .. maybe a best practices checklist from Oracle we could point to for our QA?
07:52:44* Doug Gault@Andre - It would be very difficult to do from a legal perspective as well as Oracle doesn’t “own” the code from external plugins.
07:53:53Earlwhere/how do we ask questions in advance?
07:54:07Andre de SouzaMaybe they could revise/integrate/maintain inside APEX the top X plugins every year or something like that
07:54:09Earldon’t see it on the office hours page
07:54:25Kenny WangQuestion 3: how to leverage git for apex development?
07:54:42Geert De Paepabout git: good question!
07:54:52Denis SavenkoLegalizing could be different. Google or Apple don't own apps in the marketplaces, but they're still there. What I/m driving at - we want our plugin and application marketplace along with Packaged Applications repositiry =)
07:55:00Greggit...I mean good luck ;-)
07:55:34Juergen Schuster@Andre: The restriction Doug mentioned is true just for ONE single Plug-in. Less amount does not change anything ;-)
07:55:38Vinicius Damarqueshow APEX team use version control in APEX development?
07:56:05Denis Savenko@Vinicius - I have the same question!
07:56:43* Chaitanya Koratamaddihttp://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/apex/learnmore/apex-life-cycle-management-wp-3030229.pdf
07:57:01hvarmanis it ok to include html code in our pl/sql select statement for an interactive report? what is the best practise in this case? how we can achieve the same look and feel if it is not ok to include html lines?
07:57:26Steven FeuersteinHey I didn’t add that code, somebody else did! :-)
07:57:45Jayson Hanes@hvarman use html expression on the column
07:57:45* Doug Gault@Vinicius @Denis - There are really no surprises on how the APEX team uses Version Control . @Chaitanya just linked to a great white paper. but basically all the SQL Scripts, PL/SQL, Javascript libs, etc are kept in VCS as are the individual Applications.
07:57:49Steven FeuersteinAnd Carsten helped us get to the source of the problem quickly, thanks!
07:58:17* Christina Cho@hvarman, it's best use column html expression if you need to embed HTML in interactive
07:58:29Juergen Schuster@hvarman: Use HTML Expression instead #Security
07:59:07hvarmanthanks for the suggestions everyone..i will look into it
07:59:27Andre de SouzaThere you go, I dont want to apply my own mask plugin, the ideal would be its provided inside apex.
08:00:15Andre de SouzaBut I understand how complicated things like this would be
08:00:49Carsten Czarski@hvarman: that does not only apply to interactive reports, but to all APEX components: Try to use declarative attributes as much as possible - and try to avoid embedding HTML code into SQL queries or PL/SQL code. That includes "HTML Expression", but also e.g. using templates for classic reports to satisfy special display requirements.
08:01:04Richard Dalvi@Chaitanya, we are really missing the audio. it will be great you can organize recorded session available. thank you.
08:01:22* Chaitanya KoratamaddiRichard Dalvi, recording will be available shortly
08:01:31Richard DalviAwesome
08:01:35Juergen Schuster@Andre: We have 150 Plug-ins on apex.world hard to decide what to implement internally and thats the point of Plug-ins that you can extend the App-Builder by yourself.
08:01:43Denis Savenko=)
08:01:44* Chaitanya Koratamaddiapex.oracle.com/officehours stay tuned for the recording
08:02:17John NormanAny ETA for updating the workshop in the GitHub Oracle Learning Library for Apex 18.1?
08:02:18* Doug GaultThe whole point of having the plugin architecture is so that developers can extend the functionality of APEX.
08:02:44* Joel KallmanThank you everyone for joining. I am completely enthused that the global APEX community *CRUSHED IT*....again!
08:03:03Kenny Wanganybody can let me know how to leverage git to apex?
08:03:04* David Peake@John Norman we are working on it but will take some time as including the presentations in a markdown format
08:03:18Denis SavenkoOnce on OTN forums we with MAX discussed the matter - and he actually implemented an app to GENERATE SELECT2 style
08:03:19Denis Savenkohttp://max-playground.no-ip.org/ords/f?p=SELECT2_STYLE
08:03:22Elizabeth@hvarman - using HTML embedding in your SQL exposes you to SQL injection of XSS. Like @Christina mentioned, use column HTML expressions
08:03:22Denis SavenkoIt's here
08:03:34Juergen SchusterWe did a perfect integration of Select2 in Universal Theme
08:03:35Denis SavenkoBut there's only one for that specific plugin
08:03:39Richard Dalvi@Joel this is a great initiative, useful for global APEX Professionals...thanks a lot
08:03:46Denis SavenkoI'd like to see more UNIVERSAL guidelines
08:03:55Denis Savenkoas documentation or something.. thanks
08:04:08* Shakeeb RahmanAbsolutely.
08:04:16* Shakeeb RahmanThank you to everyone for attending!
08:04:27* Chaitanya KoratamaddiThanks everyone!
08:04:28Richie VAre all those sessions at 10am?
08:04:31HanyBig Thanks
08:04:35Jayson Hanesthanks all!
08:04:35Prashanth RajuThanks to all APEX EXPERTS!!
08:04:36* John SnydersThere was one interactive grid question we didn't get to. There will be an interactive grid session later in the year where I can answer such questions.
08:04:36John DentThanks so much to the whle team - as ever, tremendous!
08:04:37Michael HichwaCheck online
08:04:37AmeyaNthank you to the Apex team..
08:04:38AncaThank you!
08:04:41Sagar PatravaleMany thank you!
08:04:41Kenny Wangthx
08:04:42Denis SavenkoThanks, team!
08:04:45Vinicius Damarquesthank you joel!
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